Tim McChesney Interview

Tim McChesney Interview - professional freeskier and avid mountain biker
Tim McChesney Interview - professional freeskier and avid mountain biker

Tim McChesney knows gravity is season agnostic. If you feel the same, chances are good that you look forward to seeing Tim and his co-workers on screen every year as autumn yields to winter and the ski industry releases their annual bounty of inspirational flicks. Of course Tim’s profession mandates chasing snow, but the last time we crossed paths with him, it was at the old Rampage site in Virgin, Utah on mountain bikes.

We owe a big thanks to Tim for taking the time to talk to us and kinda-sorta going beyond the skis and snow.

Tim McChesney - mtb jump
Where did you grow up and how old were you when you started skiing? I was born in Minnesota. When I was five-and-a-half, we moved to Bozeman and that’s where I kind of figured out what skiing was. We used to ski at Bridger Bowl. I moved to Utah when I was 17 to try and pursue a professional career in skiing and just be located around the industry. I've been in Utah ever since. When did you start mountain biking? I started mountain biking around 4 summers ago. We have pretty sweet mountain biking up in Big Sky and I went five or six times but didn’t really get into it. Living in Park City, everyone is always mountain biking and I finally decided it’s time to invest in a bike. I think I rode it every single day for the rest of that summer. What are some of the mental parallels you have discovered in skiing and biking? I think mountain biking is the closest thing to skiing for me. A lot of it is because you are moving so fast and the decision making is very similar. Just like the slightest little movement can change your whole line. You’re constantly focused and it’s similar to skiing for me in that your decisions have to be super quick and precise or it could end pretty horribly. Do you like lift-served mountain biking or is it always pedaling for you? I like it all honestly. I try to do a good mix of resort, shuttle laps, bike parks and short pedals or even huge adventure rides. Getting far out there has been cool because I started exploring some of the zones that I spend a lot time skiing in. A lot of them have these old beat-up trails. The craziest one I did was last year. We started in American Fork Canyon and rode from American Fork all the way over to the Wasatch Crest Trail. Then we rode down Mill Creek back to my house. We saw the whole Wasatch Range where I ski. That was awesome. I think it was about 9 hours and it was around 60 miles. There was a lot of hiking mixed into it because a lot of the trails are not purpose-built for mountain biking.
Faction skis from EVO
Lange ski boots from REI
Oyuki gloves from EVO
Where are your favorite places to ride bikes now? I love the whole Park City area, just because you can go on a 20-mile ride and ride so many different trails. Gnarly trails, smooth stuff, good cross-country riding – it's all such a good mix. Do you run or hit the weight room to keep in shape? I don’t really do anything and as I’ve gotten older and I see the affects of that. I really feel that the more time I spend on my bike leading up to the winter – the stronger I am on my skis right after that. Usually the first couple of weeks of ski season I’m beat up and sore and tired every day, but if I just spend a ton of time on my bike leading in to the season, my legs feel great right after that. That’s been one of the positive effects of biking for me. For mountain biking – tubeless tires, 29-inch wheels, carbon frames, and other advances in tech have really changed the game. What are some of the innovations you’ve seen in the ski world over the last few years? Some of the bindings I’ve been using have some pretty crazy advancements because I do a lot of backcountry skiing. I like to have a touring binding that I can also ski pretty hard on and not worry about them. I use a binding called the CAST touring system which is a new technology that makes it so you can have a solid touring binding with pins, but then ski on a full downhill binding once you descend. That’s changed so much in my skiing and probably the best technical advancement I’ve noticed. Ski boots have definitely gotten so much better as far as having a touring ski boot that you can ski the resort every single day on and just have a warm ski boot for every day. What new developments do you see on the horizon for the ski market? People are trying to make skis lighter, stronger, and more durable. But overall, skis are skis and they honestly don't change a ton every year. Whereas the mountain bikes, someone comes out with a new bike with different geometry or lighter parts, stronger wheels and so on. Whereas if you ski, and you've skied five or ten years ago, you really wouldn't find huge differences in them.
Pro freeskier Tim McChesney mountain biking
Have you ever helped with product development or testing? I've done product development with Faction skis. I've been with them for almost 10 years now. They started as the new guys in town and now they've grown to be a huge ski brand. I think this is the ninth or tenth winter I have helped with developing some of their skis. I give feedback to whatever I'm spending most of the time on. Just like what I think about flex patterns for different models for varying conditions and durability. I spend a lot of time on these products compared to a regular consumer, so they like to know what's going on with the products and how the cores are holding up. Woodward Park City opened just over a year ago. Any thoughts on that venue? It’s awesome. I've been to a couple different locations and I was really looking forward to the Park City one opening for winter reasons and of course summer reasons. I think we lost a lot of local freestyle bike terrain and Woodward has built some awesome bike park trails. I really want to do a backflip on a bike at some point in my life. My goal is to go to Woodward and do it a couple of times into the foam pit. If that goes well, I'll eventually move to dirt, but we’ll see how it goes into the foam pit first. Have you ever used a foam pit for your skiing? I haven’t done any of that. It’s fun to go up and build your own jumps and features. A good powder landing is still as good as a foam pit. Have you ever coached or mentored young skiers? I coached in person for a program called Access Freeride. Me and a bunch of friends all worked for them for a couple seasons with some awesome kids who have done well at X Games and other competitions. It's pretty cool to see. We coached Colby Stevenson. He won two X Games medals last year.
Tim McChesney - pro freeskier on the mountain bike
What were your first big breaks that led to you getting attention from sponsors? I started out by doing a lot of slopestyle competitions and I ended up winning the Aspen Open. That was so long ago, but it was a big step for me. I did a lot of the film stuff early on, too. Successful action sport athletes can choose to compete, create content for social media/film, or a combination of both. Do you believe there are negative aspects to this model? I did a lot of competitions growing up and I wasn't really having a ton of success after a year or two. I just kind of got sick of traveling to events with horrible conditions and having to ski. I had some other film opportunities that I wanted to pursue and it's awesome to take that path because you're kind of just more enjoying it, doing your own program, and hanging out with some good friends. Like social media as well these days – it's pretty fun to go out and produce content and post it.
If there was a gnarly mountain bike invitational for skiers only, K.C. Deane would be invited; you'd be invited, but who else would there? Who else is a formidable mountain biker from your department? My good friend Lucas Wachs rips on a bike. Sage Cattabriga-Alosa is an awesome biker. All these freeskiers that don't have anything going on in the summers just spend all summer biking. You gave an interview about 6 years ago where you said you're getting old. Do you think you're a better skier now than you were 6 years ago? In different aspects – yes. I’ve focused pretty much all my energy on backcountry skiing. That's one of the things that really takes a lot of experience and time in order to be safe; knowing how to get around and where to go basically. In that aspect I would say I'm better than I was. There's also other aspects of the sport that I was better at back then. It’s a change basically – like an evolution of my skiing. But 6 years ago, I could go to a training park and do a lot more tricks than I could probably do right now. That’s just because I spend more time skiing in the backcountry than in the parks these days.
Tim McChesney trades in the skis for mountain biking during the summer in Park City, UT
What do you think about the Little Cottonwood Canyon Gondola project? I spend so much time up there, but haven't been following their plans closely. But I can definitely say whatever they can do to help with the traffic – I am all for it. Things are just getting crazy up there. Would you be for, or against an initiative where skiers have to pay to access Big Cottonwood Canyon and Little Cottonwood Canyon? That's a hard one. I'm not sure about that. If it would limit the numbers of cars going up there every day? Then yeah, I would be for it. I guess Solitude has been charging and I don’t know how effective that’s been. I mean this is such a pinch with Salt Lake City being so close and then only 2 skiers in each car up this tiny little canyon. There has to be something done with the amount of user groups going up there these days. What are your thoughts on IKON and EPIC passes? I don’t really get that argument. I don't think that EPIC and IKON pass are really changing it that much. I think people will ski no matter what. People who are going on ski vacations spend all this money to come ski and they're going to buy lift tickets regardless. I know it probably increases the numbers somewhat. What are your favorite resources for tracking storms? Ha! I spend far too much time looking at the weather during the winter. I'm on my computer looking at forecasts for Utah, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Washington, I use Open Snow the website and app a lot and then I'll see where the storms are heading then kind of dive deeper by looking at SNOTEL, NOAA and pretty much every resource you can think of. What's the right blend of work, fun, and meeting your obligations to your sponsors? With skiing, you want to make video projects from your season. You want to be proud of the work, obviously. But you’ve got to remember that you're going out there and skiing with your friends. It's always fun, but it does get stressful sometimes – trying to get certain shots or the weather is just not cooperating and you drive 13 hours to Canada and get rained on and pretty much drive straight back. When things don't go how you want, I try to just brush that off and move on to the next trip or next day of skiing.
Do you have any film projects in the works right now? We’re filming a team movie for Faction this winter. What happens behind the scenes when getting footage for a project like this? Does the production team do recon or do you guys just pretty much know where to go depending on the weather? Definitely tons of recon. That helps a lot with like the whole filming side of things. You can waste so much time looking around while you have a hired film crew ready to film. If you have some objectives and the logistics figured out – you go to the location and get the shots. That's the best way to do it. A lot of times it’s usually some of us getting out on snowmobiles, then ski touring to get to different locations. The Utah To BC film from the Faction Collective dropped a few weeks ago. Do you have memorable moments from getting the work done? I’ve been pitching Faction to spend some time in Utah and finally they said “We'll fly Etienne Mérel out there.” Everything we were getting in Utah was snowmobile based, pretty much. It was awesome and we were able to get out everywhere, no problem. As soon as travel restrictions are over, where's the first place you're going? Will it be a ski trip or a surf trip? I guess that depends on the timing of everything. I'm definitely looking forward to getting back to Japan. We’re having a killer season right now and it's been a little hard watching everyone see some epic powder over there and being stuck over here. They've gotten more snow than they know what to do with. What do you have in the quiver this year for ski equipment? I spend most of my time on the Faction Prodigy 4.0. I ski that in a 185 length. I use Look Bindings and Lange Boots. I stay warm and dry with Saga Outerwear. Oyuki Japan is my glove sponsor. I’m also an EVO ambassador. Thanks a lot for your time, Tim. We can't wait to run into you again – wherever that may be. Yeah, definitely. Hopefully you guys have a good winter.

Thanks to these photographers / videographers for allowing us to use their images… 

Vinny Mauro

Rocko Menzyk

Christopher Peters
Dirt Coast Website

Meet Kat Sweet – Sweetlines Coaching And Junior Racing

Kat Sweet Interview - Sweetlines Mountain Bike Coaching and Mountain Bike Racing
Kat Sweet Interview - Sweetlines Mountain Bike Coaching and Mountain Bike Racing

Kat’s a true ambassador for mountain biking because her dedication to having young people experience the sport and progress their skills ranks her among the planet’s MTB Royalty. Over the years, her Sweetlines clinics and coaching have enabled girls, boys, women and men to build confidence, create community, and promote stewardship through the sport. Kat operates most of her offerings at the Duthie Hill Bike Park in Issaquah, Washington.

Kat’s 2021 clinic sign-ups start on February 1st. Visit the Sweetlines website for more information.

Sweetlines:  Instagram | YouTube | Facebook

Images from Kat Sweet's Sweetlines mountain biking programs

In the summer of 2018, our family was at the Duthie Bike Park for the first time and there were obviously kids’ mtb camps going on. I recognized the Sweetlines tent and jerseys from social media and hoped the Sweetlines Owner, CEO and head Coach Kat Sweet was on-site. With her trademark pink and blue dyed hair, she was easy to spot at the middle compound of the bike park. When I got the chance to interrupt her day and say hello, Kat had already noticed one of our kids around the park and she invited him to ride in her coaches’ jump jam at the end of the day.

Now, with the pandemic and racial tensions testing America’s culture and politics – Kat has faced both of these challenges head on. For her clinics to take place during the pandemic, several measures had to be taken to comply with local regulations for crowd sizes and social distancing. Kat has always been about equality, but following the deaths of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Ahmaud Arbery, and many others, Kat chose to ramp up her efforts to make the sport more inclusive and level the playing field for children who are Black, Indigenous, People of Color between the ages of 6-14 to join the mtb community.

Since she started Sweetlines and Sweetlines Junior Racing, Kat and her fellow coaches have been able to mature their teaching skills for riders of all ages and abilities. For instance, they have created a vocabulary of terms that eliminates the technical mumbo-jumbo, but is still geared towards riders executing proper body position, cornering, braking, and other techniques.

When we most recently caught up with Kat, she told us about how she wants to make sure her clinics allow all to participate, what lies on the horizon in order for her clinics to continue during the pandemic, how her teaching has evolved, and more.

Kat and her coaches and riders a mtb event for girls

Kat Sweet Interview

The world is a lot different than it was a year ago. The pandemic, race issues and inclusivity are dominating topics. Tell me how you're dealing with these issues based on your perspective, experiences and goals. I just talked to a friend who is a transgendered woman, just finding out people's stories in the bike worlds and trying to come up with ideas on how to be more inclusive and more diverse. We could definitely do better. That's the biggest thing. Are the people you're speaking with optimistic? I've been talking to a lot of optimistic people. I have a lot of friends in the bike world who are people of color and so I've been having conversations with them and hearing their stories and ideas. If I want people of color in my community, I should talk to people of color and find out how to make that happen. So, I’ve just been having a lot of really great conversations with a lot of different people. When can kids register for your summer camps? My summer camps go live February 1st. They usually sell out by February 15th. How do you make sure people sign up for the right clinic based on a rider's experience? I’m pretty good at sorting kids and we ask a lot of preliminary questions to find out who's in what group. Actually, that reminds me. I need to check in with all the parents for the next camp to see if anybody's leveled up since they registered.
Sweetlines Junior Camps
I watched your 2012 ‘If She Can Do It’ video. It looks like it could have been made yesterday or last week. Have you changed anything significant as to how you coach? Oh my gosh, yes. So, I honestly cringe a little when I see it. I think, “Oh, we don't use that terminology anymore.” It has some really good info. But we've definitely updated pretty much everything that we teach. That movie has a lot of our old terminology and old ways of teaching. We've updated a lot of things, especially when it comes to jumps, drops and cornering. For cornering, we've come up with the Five H's of cornering. So, you've got your Head, is always the first thing to look. For your Heart you’re almost like paddling a kayak and you want your shoulders looking where you're going and you're slightly leaning in the direction you're going as well or dipping down. Then your Hands are going to lean the bike. Then, if you move down the body, you've got your Hips and your Heels. So, for the hips, you want your belly button looking where you're going and you want to counterbalance with your hips. And then for the heels, you're going to add some pressure at the apex of the turn to help give you traction and to help you cut out of that turn quicker. When jumping, I always walk people through the pieces of the jump; explain the pieces of the jump, what to do where. And then I got away from the word preload because I found when people preload they use too much upper body and they try to bend at the waist and bend their elbows too much. If you watch really good jumpers or good jumpers, they're really using their whole body weight to press into their feet. So, I call it loading or stomping into the lip of a jump and really pressing your heels into the lip. You're using your whole bodyweight to really press into it. You can think of it like a diving board. if I just walk out to the edge of the diving board and I just step off of it, not much happens, but if I press down with my whole bodyweight, the board's going to push me up into the air. I learned the diving board analogy from Shaums March and the BICP. Same thing with my feet on my pedals, if I press down into the bike, the bike comes up with me, and then I'm guiding it with my arms.
Sweetlines coaching, mountain bike clinics, and junior racing team

Do you come up with these techniques on your own and model it over time and practice, or do your other coaches assist with developing? I love collaboration, I'm all about collaboration. So, the coaches that I work with, we all geek out over this stuff. We'll get together, “Okay, we like how we’re seeing this. What should we change? What can we make better?” It's always a work in progress. You coach youth and adult mountain bikers. Explain a bit about how you coach different age groups. There are a lot of similarities. We really “kiddi-fied” our language a lot to make it fun and sometimes silly. My coaches have come up with some really good analogies of what movement is. Instead of saying modulate your brakes, because that's boring, we use smores braking. You don't want to smash your smore. You want to modulate, you want to gradually bring the graham crackers together before you bite it. So, things like that. It sounds really silly, but I think it's really fun. And once you have a visual of, “Oh, we're smores breaking.” Or for little kids, we use things like for tall and low positions, we use Proud Puma and Pouncing Puma and it gives you that real, “Okay, I'm a proud Puma. I'm standing up tall. And now I'm a Pouncing Puma, I’m about to attack the trail.” So, it makes it fun and it gives them a good visual of what that means. For kids, you want to give them a couple of key words and then start practicing right away. With adults, I can give a little more detail. But I always try not to give too much at once and sometimes I’ll layer it like an onion. I'll give them the first piece of cornering. It will be just leaning the bike side-to-side. Then I'll add in head hands and start turning a little bit. Then we'll add in the hips, make sure they get the bike leaning in the correct direction and the hips looking the right direction before we add in the heels. So, I'll do like one piece at a time. Sometimes they won't even get to heels till their next lesson or two lessons later. With kids, you just have to keep things really short and quick and get them moving quickly.

MTB Helmets For Kids

Make sure your kids have proper, well-fitting head protection.

Mountain Bike Helmets For Kids

G-Form knee pads for kids

Knee Pads For Kids

Knee pads are another level of protection for young riders.

MTB Knee Pads for Kids

Camelbak LUXE hydration pack for kids

Hydration Packs For Kids

Is your kid big enough to carry their own water and supplies?

MTB Hydration Packs for Kids

When our kids were growing up, we had to keep things short and quick because of their physical limitations and attention span. Do you do the same thing? We do our summer camps there all day. From 10:00 am till 3:30 or 4:00 pm, depending what age group they are. Our format is to do a little bit of skills and drills, go ride a trail, do a little bit of skills and drills, ride a trail, eat lunch, play games, try the pump track, do some more skills drills, go for a ride. We give them a little bit of the skills and the drills and the foundation, then go. The first day of camp is always the most skills and drills because you want to make sure they can brake and they can stand up on their pedals and use all the positions they'll need before you hit the trail. Then you have to be really flexible. Every group is a little different. Some groups can handle more skills and drills. Some groups just really need to ride and burn some energy. So, my coaches are really good at reading their groups and figuring out the group dynamics and how things are working and what the group needs. And then two, we give them some ability to choose when they're ready to try a new trail or, “Oh, yeah, here's a good motivator to use unlocking as a key to unlocking the trail. We're going to do this skill drill and once everybody gets the skill, then we're going to unlock this feature on the trail.” They all have to work together to try to get everybody through the obstacle before you can progress. So, my coaches are super creative and fun and they come up with really great ideas like that. And then we do goal setting too. Such as, “Okay, we made it halfway up this hill, our first try. Look, there's a tree next to us. Our next time up this hill let's try to get past that tree by five feet. And then the next time we're going to try to get to that boulder up there.” So, looking for the places where you can get a little bit farther up the hill. And then we also do GnarStars. We use GnarStars to reward the kids if they do something good or if they're supportive of other riders. And then two, if they make it all the way down lower boot camp, standing up on their pedals the whole way, you can get a GnarStar. So, 10 GnarPoints is a GnarStar, earn 10 GnarStars and they get a Kat-i-corn sticker. So, the kids all week long are trying to get to the Kat-i-corn stickers. I've had so many great people that have worked with me over the years and come up with really fun ideas. I love bringing people together and collaborating and always making things fresh, and new, and exciting for the kids.
Sweetlines drills and stretching prior to practice laps at a youth mtb race
What are some of your favorite moments that you get to experience with students of any age? I feel like the confidence that kids gain from mountain biking really translates into life and so even just for every level of kid, there's something they want to conquer. Whether it's just a front wheel lift or maybe another kid's trying to get a back wheel lift and the next kid’s trying to do a bunny hop. Once they accomplish those goals, the smile on their face is just huge and they feel so proud that they did something that was really hard to accomplish. I love being a part of that and acknowledging them when they do try really hard. And it's not always easy. When they do accomplish something you can tell how stoked they are and I get really stoked for them. Are there any young mountain bikers you've been working with who have shown up as a novice bike rider and over the years moved on to your Sweet Lines Racing Program? Yes! So many. Oh my gosh. One of my great stories is L, coach L-O-L, Elena Runyan. She started with me when she was 12 years old. She showed up at camp, very new mountain biker and she had this fierceness in her and she just wanted to excel at mountain biking. So, she kept coming back for programs and asking lots of questions. She was just really driven and really proved herself over the years. Very quickly she became a mentor in my programs. Then she became an assistant coach. Then she became a coach. Now she's one of my lead coaches. She's also a professional downhill racer. She is a collegiate national champion. Elena is on my elite racing team now. Next, we have Sydney Haberman, Syd Vicious is what we call her. She has been with me since she was probably 10 and she's 17 now. She's a Junior Expert racer and she has dreams of World Cup. She definitely has the mental piece, physical piece, and skills. I'm really excited for her future. Julia Shred-ulia, she's been with me probably since she was eight. She's 14 now. She started doing tuck-no handers when she was 13. She's one of the best jumpers out there. There's a big difference between being a good bike rider and a good racer. What are the things that you concentrate on in order to improve race results? It's not just about riding a bike. There's a lot of ingredients involved in being a great rider and racer. So, taking lots of classes and building skill are super important. Of course, you want to have fitness. Fitness isn't just riding. It's not just having endurance or riding bikes, especially for downhill. It's also gym work. It's working on your fast twitch muscles. We've been doing workouts once a week through Zoom and then they work out on their own as well, especially my elite girls. So, we do fitness training. We’ve done some mental training too. And with my Sweetlines Junior Racing girls, we had a book club through the COVID times and we spent two months working on this book called The Confidence Code for Girls. It gave a lot of examples and science and tools on how to build your confidence. That was great and really helpful for racing and for life in general. So, there's a mental piece of downhill racing. And then eating well, of course. Nutrition is huge, too. Knowing how to fuel your body before a race weekend, during a race weekend, after a race weekend.
Sweetlines Junior Racing
Is there anything else that you want people to know about you or your programs? I have made a few “how-to videos” but they're similar to online curriculum. I have my sample stuff ready right now and I'm going to use it for coach training for my coaches. We'll create more and more videos that are for kids of all ages. They'll be very fun. Topics will include: gearing up, helmet fit – things like that. Then we're going to move into the basics of shred skills. You're going to have Tall And Low for one lesson, Bouncing, Stomping, Absorbing. I really want to try and make our teaching methods more available to a bigger audience.
Sweetlines riders ready to hit the trails